The Messiah

micah · 02-18-2007, 08:36 PM

in the 12 th principle maimonides states,
"And part of this principle that there is no king of Israel except from the house of David and from the seed of Solomon alone. And anyone who disputes this regarding this family is a denier of the name of God and in all the words of the prophets. "
Why is the lineage of the Messiah part of the principle?

Rabbi Moshe Ben-Chaim · 09-05-2007, 04:10 PM

Good question; I have to give this thought. Thank you.

ya'aqob · 09-21-2007, 02:12 AM

Perhaps because, according to the prophets, G-d gave his word to David that the kingdom would never cease from him...?

Someone who believes otherwise is in a way doubting the promise of G-d Himself. Think about it.

micah · 09-21-2007, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ya'aqob

Perhaps because, according to the prophets, G-d gave his word to David that the kingdom would never cease from him...?

Someone who believes otherwise is in a way doubting the promise of G-d Himself. Think about it.

According to this answer it is a denial of the earlier principles (prophecy, God's unchangegabilty etc.) not a denial of the Messiah, if so why does the Rambam put it here. also there are many things which God has promised why is this one mentioned explicitly

ya'aqob · 09-21-2007, 11:51 AM

It was a personal promise to David. In a sense, it gets personal whenyou doubt G-d's personal promises

WesMN · 11-12-2008, 07:55 AM

Beth · 11-12-2008, 10:04 AM

Hi Wes, nice to see you again!

TbSE · 12-04-2008, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micah

in the 12 th principle maimonides states,
"And part of this principle that there is no king of Israel except from the house of David and from the seed of Solomon alone. And anyone who disputes this regarding this family is a denier of the name of God and in all the words of the prophets. "
Why is the lineage of the Messiah part of the principle?

According to R' Yosef Kapach's notes to his translation of the RaMBaM's commentary
on the mishna ad loc., the lineage emphasis was against the Christians, who drew
their mesiah's lineage through Natan( Luke 3, 31).

Tamir.

02-18-2007, 08:36 PM	#1
micah Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 43	in the 12 th principle maimonides states, "And part of this principle that there is no king of Israel except from the house of David and from the seed of Solomon alone. And anyone who disputes this regarding this family is a denier of the name of God and in all the words of the prophets. " Why is the lineage of the Messiah part of the principle? __________________

09-05-2007, 04:10 PM	#2
Rabbi Moshe Ben-Chaim Administrator Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 170	Good question; I have to give this thought. Thank you. __________________ Rabbi Moshe Ben-Chaim, Founder Mesora.org / USAIsrael.org / The JewishTimes

11-12-2008, 07:55 AM	#6
WesMN Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 17	I thought this was so compelling. Shalom

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09-21-2007, 02:12 AM	#3
ya'aqob Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York Posts: 9	Perhaps because, according to the prophets, G-d gave his word to David that the kingdom would never cease from him...? Someone who believes otherwise is in a way doubting the promise of G-d Himself. Think about it.

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ya'aqob Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New York Posts: 9	It was a personal promise to David. In a sense, it gets personal whenyou doubt G-d's personal promises

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Beth Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 203	Hi Wes, nice to see you again!